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Guilty Before Innocent… In America? – Arizona HB2573 to Nullify NDAA

We can learn a lot about a nation by how they treat their supposed law breakers. In a peaceful, lawful, and liberty minded society even suspected criminals are treated with respect. After all, the accusations might be false.

In a tyrannical state the powers to be decide people’s fate on a whim. Just a few weeks ago there was a man-hunt for Christopher Dorner, the supposed cop-killer who wrote a manifesto calling for the deaths of multiple people. I say supposed because we never confirmed or verified beyond a doubt that Christopher Dorner wrote that manifesto. We also never confirmed or verified beyond a doubt that Christopher Dorner killed anyone.

In fact, we don’t even know if the LAPD and other forces actually killed Christopher Dorner by setting a cabin on fire.

We don’t know any of this because our system of law has been turned absolutely non-transparent. Today we use the NDAA, the PATRIOT Act, NSA wiretapping, or other like-minded legislation to bypass the judicial practice of proving suspects guilty. Gone are the days of “innocent until proven guilty” and in it’s place rests the mantra of “they were too big of a threat to society to use the proper channels… so we bypassed them.”

The LAPD/SWAT could have easily waited for Dorner to exit the building or starved him out but instead they shot multiple –¬†seven if I remember correctly – incendiary tear grenades inside a wooden cabin. For those who do not know, incendiary grenades are grenades made to heat up by a chemical reaction. Do we really need to use seven of these in a wooden cabin? After all incendiary weapons are not even supposed to be used in war according to the Geneva Conventions and the UN Convention on Conventional Weapons Protocol II.

Guilty or not, doesn’t the man have the right to a trial¬†in which the accusers carry the burden of proof of proving he was guilty?

Even if the qualm is not as high of a profile as Dorner, as it stands now the NDAA allows the government to do many things to bypass justice. Section 1021 of the NDAA bill of 2012 allowed for the “indefinite detention of American citizens without due process at the discretion of the President.” Indefinite detention? Without due process? At the discretion of the President? Or and this is for AMERICAN CITIZENS? This isn’t some sort of legislation or command of of Hitler’s Nazi Germany so he could detain whoever he wanted for whatever reason that he wanted (which he did) – no this is for you and me.

Arizona has introduced HB2573 to effectively nullify any sort of NDAA action. This bill has bi-partisan suppport. After all, nobody wants to have an invisible threat hovering over their head in knowing that they could be the next person that is captured “at the discretion of the President.” Below is a letter written to my Arizona Representative on the issue.

Mr Forese,
There are bad people in the world and I don’t think that anyone is going to say that there are not. However, I believe that everyone should have the right to a trial. We cannot be running as a society of Liberty and Freedom and locking up people indefinitely – no matter how unsavory they are. They should be afforded the right to a trial as a free man – innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. I am asking you to please vote YEA on Arizona HB2573 which nullifys the National Defense Authorization Act passed by our federal government.

-Kyle Huwer, PC, LD17

I will leave you with a few relevant quotes to think about when entertaining a peice of legislation that allows your government to come and round up whoever they want with no oversight.

First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me – Pastor Martin Niemoller


“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it” – George Santayana


Joe Jones Manifesto to LAPD

Second LAPD manifesto released in support of Christopher Dorner – minus the killing.

My Former LAPD Officer Joe Jones MANIFESTO…

I know most of you who personally who me are in disbelief of the partial story I will tell today. A story that has been suppressed for about 18 years, But lives strong everyday of my life.

I without hesitation would like to send my condolences to the Victims who were lost and their families during this tragic situation. I would also like to send mycondolences and well wishes to the many former and current Officers, as well as Citizen’s and their families who lost the lives and souls of loved one’s to the injustices of Police Corruption, Scandal, Lies, Deception and Brutality.

Unlike Former Officer Dorner, I fear dying; But I also fear living in a society where Innocent people are dying for no reason. A society where pain so great can be afflicted to people who have to desire to live right and treat people right and then be punished for doing right.

They say we all look alike. In very few cases this of course is true. But in most cases it is not. I feel a resemblance to Dorner, (See Photos) However several people who have no resemblance to Dorner have been shot due to the fear of what is taking place. I DO NOT WANT TO BE SHOT FOR CRIMES I DID NOT COMMIT!. Neither does anyone else.

To preface my story I will say this: Just like former Officer Christopher Dorner I used to smile a lot. I loved everyone. I was voted Friendliest Senior of my Sr. Class in High School. I always believed in the system and never got into any trouble. I loved hard and gave to all I could. After Joining the LAPD in 1989 I quickly found out that the world and society had major flaws. I had flaws as well for ever believing that our system of government was obligated to do the right thing. his is what I believed as a young Officer. Without going into major detail, I need you to first assume that I would not surface 16 years later with lies about a situation that has me with PTSD to this very day. The pain forces me to speak as I have yet to shake the Ill’s of my experience as an LAPD Officer. Of course I have moved on physically. But mentally and emotionally I still live with flaws.

I can’t go into re-living the emotions of what I went through so I will say this. I had my home viciously attacked by a gunman with my family and myself inside the house. No arrests were made and my family and I Received very little support. I had my Civil Rights violated on several occasions. I was falsely arrested at gunpoint by the Sheriffs as an Officer who ID’d himself and was conspired against by both LAPD and the Sheriffs when my Civil case went to Trial. I was falsely accused on more than one occasion and simply placed in a position that the trust was so compromised that I could no longer wear the Uniform. Also know there were many more episodes. All of these issues are well documented and I present them not to be a Whistle blower, However to hope that one would not assume that all of what is being said is Lies as presented by Dorner. I don’t know him, But I know me. I will say from my experience, If a person knows they were wrong it is easier to move on without anger. Seems that Dorner obviously could not move on… Could I just be content and move on with my life and not say anything? Yes…Then I would feel that I for once had my chance to speak on something that hurts me to this day and I did nothing to arouse thought or provoke reform. This is what I hope comes from this whole situation:

1. Families that lost someone to this tragedy find the peace that only God can give at this terrible time.

2. Citizens of Los Angeles be mindful of this fearful time to be an Officer and comply vigorously so that you are not the victim of an Officer on high alert.

3. Government and Politicians please be diligent in the responsibility of creating Laws that protect those who could be the victim of a conspiracy. Never allow the door to be shut on the Truth.

4. Honest and Fair LAPD & All Agencies: Keep doing what you are doing to protect citizens and be safe while you are doing so. We need you and I would hope that you do not allow the Bureaucratic drama and Stress to kill your morale as I know it can.

5. Unethical LAPD & all Agencies: Whatever is was that lead you down this path, Pray to somebody’s God to forgive you and begin to remove unethical methods to your policing style. Always think what if it were you, How would you feel?..How would you like if you were falsely accused and your life, lively-hood and career was taken from you? How would you like if someone was beating on you just because they felt they could get away with it? You are no better the criminals you took and oath to arrest when you do what you do!

6. Chistopher Dorner. The 1st thing I would say to him is, I feel your pains!…But you are going about this the wrong way. To take innocent lives could never be the answer to anything. I say this as a Man who experienced the same pain, betrayal, anger, suffering, litigation and agony that you did in many ways, Only I didn’t get Fired. I just choose to go a different route. My heart still suffered that same shock, I was still left to try and put the pieces back together. The disbelief that people could conspire and cause you to loose something you loved so dearly was still there. I lost my Career, I lost my Family, I lost my Dignity, I lost my Trust…But I am here now to hopefully one day see change…Bro, Don’t kill anymore Innocent people. Your point has been made. Clearly. They know you mean business, The whole world knows. Refrain from any further wrong doing and do what you must to salvage your Soul. Whatever that means to you. Just remember that God is a forgiving God.

In conclusion I say to people who knew none of this about me that one day I will have to reflect on when was the time to speak. When I see the potential for innocent lives to be lost…The time is Now!…JJ


"We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth... For my part, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst; and to provide for it." - Patrick Henry

"Politicians and diapers both need to be changed, and for the same reason." - Anonymous

"Right is right, even if everyone is against it, and wrong is wrong, even if everyone is for it." - William Penn

"Naturally the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country" - Hermann Goering

"I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. For what I do is not the good I want to do; no, the evil I do not want to do this I keep on doing." - Romans 7:18-19

"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." - Mark Twain